Best Floats and Weights Setup For Float Fishing Rivers

5 Best Centerpin Floats and how to use them

As a guide who has taught thousands of anglers how to float fish effectively, I will tell you this. Using the right float can make a massive difference in how many fish you catch when float fishing. But it’s not just the float that matters.

The proper float and weight setup is also critical, and it all starts with using a float that is designed specifically for river fishing, but if you don’t set it up properly or know how to use it, it’s nearly useless.

You will also need the right size of float, leader, and weights for the type of water you fish in, and I will discuss all of this in this article.

Float fishing for steelhead is very productive, this client of mine hooked 50 steelhead this day
Float fishing for steelhead is so productive that this client of mine hooked over 50 steelhead on a guided trip on this day. His best day ever. The reason I’m picky about my floats is so I can have more days like this.

I will reveal my favorite floats, yes, I’m picky, and why I prefer and use certain types, sizes, and shapes over others.

And I’ll explain the pros and cons of fixed floats versus slip floats.

I will also discuss the right types of weights, the right sizes, and the right amount.

The Float: AKA The Bobber

Floats For Trout
Using the right float for trout can make a big difference

If I call it a bobber, please slap me!! In river fishing, we call bobbers “floats.”

Even the companies that make these bobbers for river fishing call them floats.

Bobbers are for lake and pond fishing, or for kids.

You first need to be sure you are using the right float for river fishing because not all floats are good floats. You also need to be sure that your float is not too deep, it’s not sinking, or that it’s not too high when floating in the water. It also needs to be floating correctly or sitting on the water right.

Weighting Centerpin Floats Properly
A properly weighted centerpin float should sink the float to the colored line on the float.

Sitting perfectly usually means only an inch or two of the float is sticking up out of the water.

Many floats have lines on the floats or color separations, which help you determine where the float should be sitting.

Even clear floats usually have some sort of indicator of where the water level should come to. I would say, only 10 to 15 percent of the length of your float should be sticking out of the water.

My client fighting a big steelhead using the right floats and weights setup
My client fighting another big steelhead using my float and weight setup. This was one of 7 he caught in this spot

As an example, an orange top float should probably be sunk to where the float goes from orange to black, clear, or brown, or whatever the lower float color is.

To sink it to that level, you need to have enough weight.

Float Color

The bottom of your float should be black, wood colored, or clear, and should be changed based on the conditions.

The top of your float is a matter of opinion, and I will give you mine.

Growing up and learning how to float fish, I was once told to use chartreuse-colored floats on cloudy days but not to use them on sunny days because they get lost in the surface glare. On sunny days, I was told to use orange-topped floats.

Now, I use orange-topped floats all the time since it is proven to be the easiest to see in all light conditions.

Float Sizing

An angler float Fishing with flies
For a small clear and shallow river like this, it’s a good idea to use clear floats like a Drennan Loafer float.

I determine my float size by the type of water that I or my clients are fishing in, and possibly by their eyesight.

What I mean by eyesight is that if you fish long 80 to 100-foot drifts, you will lose sight of smaller floats first, so a larger float might be required to get longer drifts.

It’s not uncommon for some of my older clients to lose sight of the float 30 or 40 feet before I do because I have better eyesight.

For this reason, I will often upsize the float so they can see it better. As long as the increased size does not affect the presentation or spook fish, a slightly larger float is OK.

It’s not just older guys that need a bigger brighter float.

If you have poor vision, a larger float with a larger orange top might be best in all types of water; however, the bigger the float, the more you risk the fish seeing it and getting spooked by it.

Best Steelhead floats for clear water
These are the best steelhead and trout floats for low, clear water.

Small Clear River Floats

Regarding the type of water you drift, when fishing in slower water, shallower rivers, and smaller rivers, use the smallest floats possible.

In tiny creeks, a 2 or 3-gram float might be best.

Slower, smaller rivers, especially clear rivers, might be best fished with clear floats that won’t spook the fish.

My favorite clear floats are the Drennan Loafer floats.

Medium River Floats

Jig fishing for steelhead in slow to medium fast current like this is best with twitching jigs.
For medium-sized rivers like this one, I will use larger 4 to 8-gram floats, and they don’t need to be clear unless the water is shallow and super clear.

When fishing on medium-sized rivers of 20 to 30 feet wide, these types of rivers do not require a lot of weight to get the bait down, so a size 4 to 8-gram float should be good enough.

These rivers might also be deeper, so you don’t need a clear float.

However, in very clear water with nervous fish, clear is best. I use a combination of Drennan Loafer clear floats or Raven Premium Balsa Floats, depending on the depth and clarity.

My overall favorite floats for medium-sized rivers are the 6-gram Raven FM floats.

Big Water Floats

A Big Green Colored West Coast Salmon and Steelhead river
On larger rivers use 8-gram to 16-gram floats.

Bigger, faster, or deeper rivers that require more weight to get your bait down and keep it down will require a much larger float, maybe 8gm to 16 grams.

You may also need a bigger float to cast farther and to be able to see it better at distances.

Clear floats are generally not required in big rivers, especially if the river is 5 feet or deeper. The larger Raven FM floats are still good options for bigger rivers, but you may also want to consider a slip float.

Deep Water Floats

For deep-water fishing, or faster water, you may require a much larger float so you can add more weights to get your bait down. This is why you will see West Coast anglers using massive floats.

On huge, Great Lakes rivers like the Niagara River, you will also see guys running 12 to 18-gram floats.

Slip Float Fishing For Trout, Steelhead, and Salmon

this is the BnR Tackle Free Slider Balsa Float
BnR Tackle Free Slider Balsa Float – Best Big water Slip Float

Another option for deeper water and for distance casting is a slip float, or others might call it a slip bobber.

But, there is a catch… So if slip float fishing is of interest to you, then keep reading.

I ONLY use slip floats for water that is 13 feet deep or deeper, provided I’m using a long 13-foot float rod, OR another way of saying it is “when the leader depth is longer than my rod”.

So if I happen to be float fishing with a 9-foot rod, and I’m fishing 11 feet, I’ll use a slip float.

The ONLY other time I use a slip float is when distance casting is required, especially distance casting with longer leaders.

A slip float will allow you to reel the float in closer to the rod, and that makes it much easier to cast at long distances. You set the bobber stop at the desired depth you want to fish, but reel the float as far in as you can so you can cast easier and further.

Now, there is a caveat to this. Slip floats slip..

Meaning the little bobber stopper on the line sometimes tends to move up the line on hook sets or false hook sets, like when you set the hook, but nothing is there. And if you are not careful, it could change the depth you are fishing without you realizing it, which could mean you are not fishing your bait in the right spot.

I hate when float depth changes on its own, and in my experience after guiding thousands of anglers, I have found that most anglers don’t notice the subtle depth change each time they set the hook, until they are way too deep and have been fishing that way for far too long.

For this reason, whenever possible, I prefer a fixed float with GOOD AND SECURE float caps to prevent the float from EVER moving on the line on its own.

This is the BnR Tackle Free Slider Cork slip float kit with bobber stops and beads
The BnR Tackle Free Slider Cork Float is best for small to mid-sized rivers.

So, if slip float fishing is something you want to try, or need to do, you will need a decent one, preferably one with a pointed top and one that comes with a bobber stop, which is set on the line as the desired depth.

You will also need stopper beads, and many good slip floats like the BnR Tackle Free Slider Cork Float, will come with both.

One of my preferred slip floats for salmon and steelhead is the BnR Tackle Free Slider Cork Float, which is good for smaller to mid-sized rivers. And for bigger and deeper rivers, I use the BnR Tackle Free Slider Balsa Slip Float – See it HERE.

  • The 1/4 ounce is 7.08 grams (best for smaller to medium-sized rivers)
  • The 1/2 ounce is 14.17 grams (my preferred size for bigger rivers.)
  • The 5/8 ounce is 17.7 grams
  • The 3/4 is 21.2 grams

Click the button to view the details and price of the Smaller Slip floats I use.

Pointed Top Floats Are Best

Floats and Float Caps
Make sure you use the right floats and the right float caps. You want a float cap with a snug fit.

Also, floats with pointed tops are far superior to flat or round top floats due to their ability to help you present your bait and control your speed.

I’ll explain this more at Best Floats For River Fishing.

Also, be sure you connect your floats to the line properly. Make sure the float is secure enough that it won’t move on its own, but that you are still able to adjust it so you can increase or decrease the depth.

Raven FM floats For Float Fishing For trout
The Raven FM floats are a great general-purpose float for trout, steelhead, and even salmon.

With all of these floats, they need to be weighted to sink them to a proper level so they work better.

There are advantages to sinking the float deep enough, which include the float tracking straight in the water better and not being pushed around by the wind.

How to know how much weight to use for each float size?

First, use the right type of weights, which are round split shots, without the wings, and be sure they are not the silver flashy cheap crap you get at the big box stores, where you can also get all your clothes and home stuff.

Seriously, guys, why make it harder for yourself to catch fish? Use what works, use what the guides use, and avoid what the rookie anglers use because they struggle to catch fish most of the time.

Weights for Your Float Fishing Leader Setup

Now use the right weights and be sure to weight your floats properly.

An example, a 6.2-gram float might be able to handle up to about 9 AB-sized shots, however, not all weight brands are classified as AB, or AA, or BB, some might be 1, 2, or 3 instead.

Therefore, it will depend on your brand of float, but you can figure it out manually.

Take your float, attach it to your fishing line, and leave 10 inches of line below the float (no hook). Put it in flat slow water, and keep adding weights to that 10 inches of line below the float until the float sits perfectly in the water, AKA, or sinks to the perfect depth in the water.

Then remember how many of that size weights you need for that float to be perfect.

If you use more than one size of float, you should start with your smallest float, add enough weights until it’s perfect, then go up one size of float and add more weight until that float size is perfect, then go to a bigger one, and add more weights again until it’s perfect.

Record or remember all that information so you will know it for future trips.

I also try to use the same type of floats and the same brand of weights all the time; otherwise, changing floats or changing weights might mean you need to figure it all out again.

Weights for float fishing like these splits shots are required for a good leader setup
Weights for float fishing like these splits shots are required for a good leader setup

The right types of weights are important, and it does make a difference for many reasons.

I use the same type of weights when float fishing that I do when bottom bouncing, and when fly fishing.

See my page, Weights For Fly Fishing: Everything You Need To Know, if you want to know more about the weights that I use and recommend. Or see my favorite weight by clicking the button below.

When you fish, use the right amount of weights based on the velocity and the depth of each spot, and then change floats according to your weights.

Also keep in mind that when using stuff like weighted jigs for steelhead, the jig itself can add a lot of extra weight, therefore, you may need to go to a bigger float to accommodate for the extra weight, or use fewer weights knowing that your jig will add the weight you need to get down to the fish or give you a great leader angle.

I would usually go with fewer weights and a smaller float, over more weights and a bigger float, unless I need that extra weight to cast a mile out.

Your leader is a huge part of your success when float fishing. But just having the right amount of weights will only do so much if your leader is not good, or if you don’t know how deep to set your float.

I know there are probably hundreds of anglers that I have guided who have looked at my floats and weights setup when they arrive at the river becuase they want to know how I do it.

My setup is so effective that most will copy my leader setup and continue to use that same setup forever with good success. Many will also share it with others, which is great. I’m fine with that because it’s easy and very effective for river fishing for trout, steelhead, and salmon.

I’m not going to tell you that I invented this setup exactly, but after testing out many different leader setups, floats, and weight setups for the last 35 years, these are the most effective float setups, and you can see them at the links below..

Tight Lines,

Graham

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13 Comments

  1. for a 6.2 FM raven float, would it be optimal to use 7 AAA instead of 9 AB since you’d have less shot to put on and be able to save more money?

      1. Hi Graham,

        I noticed in one of the pictures of your split shot setup, you only had 7×0.6 grams rather than the 9 you said. Do you typically only put 7 of them on a 6.2 gram float?

        1. Hi Christian,

          I will adjust the split shots based on the size of the float mostly, and sometimes the depth, and, I’ll be honest, occasionally some weights will fall off during use and I’ll be too lazy to add more, especially if it’s not effecting the float or the presentation.

          Best of luck

          Graham

  2. thank you for all these articles. I’m still learning, haven’t caught one yet this year. with your articles tho I think I’ll be better off next time I hit the river. thanks again

  3. love this site lots of valuable information thanks for your great work ………I have been looking for info on slip floats and do you use them thanks Kevin

    1. Hey Kevin,

      The only times I use slip floats is when I need the depth of my bait to be longer than the length of my rod – or over 13 feet deep.. So say my rod is 13.6 feet, and I need to reach depths of 14+ feet deep, I will choose a slip float. I will also choose a slip float if my leader below the float is over 8 feet and I need to cast very far. Getting Distance with a longer leader is easier with a slip float.

      I’ve also updated the slip float section of this article, just for you 🙂

      Good Luck

      Graham